Having just seen that interview on U tube, the conservatives and the MSM have blown the part about the NHS out of all proportion. He was just re-iterating what most of us who have had loved ones admitted to Hospital, already know. It's not working. Just because something has been around for 60 years, doesn't mean that it works well.
The BBC is another case in point. They might look to their own record over the last few years.
They should be another Monolith that should be up for intense scrutiny
