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Saturday, 15 September 2012

It’s taken how long?

I’ve just returned (Yesterday) from assembling my daughter’s flat pack furniture and found an official looking letter on the mat.

As I opened it, I noticed the document inside was coloured red. I was tempted to shred it, fearing it may well be a final demand for some service I might have forgotten to pay for, when my inner honesty kicked in and I withdrew the document.

To my surprise it was a red coloured V5C, That’s the document you have to prove to all and sundry that the car you purport to own is actually yours.

And of course there was a little leaflet explaining why they have sent the shiny red certificate, reproduced below.

Q. Why have you sent me a new V5C?
A. We are replacing all existing blue V5Cs. The new certificate is being introduced following the theft of a number of blank blue V5Cs. The aim is to reduce the risks to motorists of buying a stolen or cloned vehicle.
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Being an enquiring sort of fellow I wondered when the theft of the blue ones had happened.

On digging I was amazed that they were stolen in, wait for it, February 2007. I was gobsmacked  at the sheer speed that this government department had moved.

It’s taken them 5 1/2 years to change a blue document into a red document.

Now I know why this country is in a mess


  1. I thought the V5 did not provide proof of ownership, merely who was the registered keeper, which is not the same thing?

  2. I am in the process of ascertaining exactly what is registered with a V5C as I sent the red topped version straight back to them informing them that I am the owner adn I do not consent to have my name on their registers as the registered keeper.

    I've had two vague letters back which make it clear there is much obfuscation in play at teh DVLA and the whole registration/road tax/MOT/driving licence scam.

    The keepers details as asked for when the car is sold is not the owner and does not become the registered keeper until a new V5C has been issued after the name has been entered onto the DVLA register.

    Therefore a vehicle can change hands many times and the registered keeper will have no idea who the real owner is and yet according to the replies I have the registered keeper is the name who the DVLA demand register the change of ownership.

    Another snippet of nonsense is if the name that is the registered keeper changes their address then they are no longer the registered keeper just the keeper until such times as they or whoever registered the name informs the DVLA of the change.

    Nothing on that form, or any of the other V forms the DVLA use, means what we think it means.

    More to come as correspondence is continuing and despite sending my letters in to them in an official postage paid DVLA envelope with a named DVLA employee on the front the name on the reply I get back is always different which suggests the DVLA works in the same way as a bank in that each employee only gets to see one piece of the puzzle because if they saw two pieces they would realise that they are operating a scam.

  3. A scoundrel would be almost-tempted to nick a few "Red" blanks to cause chaos until 2018.


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